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[9x12 Guide] Two Years and 20+ Cards of Experience all packed into a nifty guide [Archive] - Bob Ross Offline Forum

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Zenyatta
12-04-2013, 05:48 PM
Quickly Eliminate The Mistakes
That Could Potentially Destroy Your 9x12 Success.

And learn exactly how a guy who releases multiple 9x12's per month
between seven zones makes it happen like clockwork.




From: Bob Ross (yes I'm posting under Zen's username but he's too busy selling spaces and too humble to toot his own horn so I'll give you the skinny....


To: My fellow successful (or struggling) 9x12'er,

If you've spent any amount of time on this forum you will have no doubt ran into a guy named "Zenyatta". You know him by the free and generous insight, advice, and experience he's shared with us over the last two years. I'd say that no less than two dozen successful 9x12'ers have credited him as one of the prime reasons for their success in one way or another.

He went from habitual shiny object chaser to having released over twenty 9x12 campaigns within the last 20 months and now you can learn the 'secrets' of his success right from the horses mouth in one handy package.

Except they aren't really secrets.

That's what's interesting about Zen, he doesn't have a particular 'magic bullet' that he came across or created. He has simply prospected so much that he's ran across every objection and suffered every mistake you can think of; adjusting his method each time until it doesn't happen anymore.

With his guidance at your disposal in this no-fluff (and I mean ZERO fluff) guide, you'll be able to instantly increase the speed that you sell spaces and eliminate the inevitable hurdles that arise when you try to prospect from scratch.

This is the guide that those of us on our umpteenth card wish we had when we started.

If you like the idea of shoving a few hundo's in your pocket as a daily occurrence, then you're in luck today because Zenyatta will help you cut out all the pesky nuisances that have stalled others and prevented them from keeping their 9x12's alive, kicking, and banking recurring cash in the bank every month.


If you've found yourself in these sticky situations...

"Selling a card but with disappointed advertisers afterwards"

"Running all over town like a chicken with your head cut off"

"Struggling with credibility issues and lack of trust"

"Not knowing how to position yourself like an expert when you're new"

"Struggling with pitching and knowing exactly to say to get your points across"

"Feeling flustered after running into gatekeepers"

"Having a frustrating time keeping advertisers recurring month after month"

"Found yourself speechless when an objection or concern arises"



...Then This Guide Will Solve Those Problems!


And who better to learn these from then a guy who is in the field doing this the past 20 months. Amazingly, Zenyatta has done the majority of his prospecting through Cold Walk-in prospecting but he leverages his time and effort in ways that most others never think of, making the process so easy to do it's like a walk in the park.

This allows him to fill up cards in one of the most efficient manners I've seen; and all you have to do is simply copy what he does. Today you can literally buy someone's experience for so little money it will make you wonder if it's a joke (and it's not).


INTRODUCING...

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note* transcript is now included!
http://i.jvzoo.com/0/73649/14 (https://www.jvzoo.com/b/0/73649/14)

Zenyatta
12-04-2013, 05:52 PM
Reserved for FAQ

Vikuna
12-04-2013, 06:30 PM
Reserved for FAQ

Is it all in a video format?

Eva

ConradDeas
12-04-2013, 07:20 PM
Videos, mp3, and text documents


Is it all in a video format?

Eva

goodkarmaguy
12-04-2013, 07:54 PM
Is it just me or is the buy it now button not working?

ConradDeas
12-04-2013, 07:57 PM
If you know Zen, you know this product is good. If you don't know Zen, get to know him. I've been fortunate enough to know Zen for a few years and have been able to bounce a few ideas back and forth with him and have made some money from our conversations. Below you will find a "good review" of his product, but not because I know him, because the product will be beneficial to a lot of people doing this business model. The sales letter above is straightforward and tells you what you're going to get with this product, so no mystery there. (except for a few nuggets not mentioned)

Just like the sales letter, the product is straightforward and to the point. No fluff, no filler, all content. From a guy who's mailed 200,000+ postcards. I'm probably way under on that number because I don't know how many solo mailings he's done for his clients. You can tell when listening to Zen he's speaking from experience, so none of what you'll learn in here is theory. This is all from a guy who has probably had close to, if not more than, 1,000 conversations about his 9x12 with business owners. When you listen to what Zen has to say, you'll be more prepared when talking about your own 9x12 which will help you with confidence. You'll have way less surprises from the other person, because Zen has already told you what they're going to say.

Of course you still have to go out and take action, but using Zen's resources will make things easier for you. So either go have 1,000 conversations and send 200,000 postcards to figure out the kinks and nuances on your own, or invest $10 and be better prepared for the kinks and nuances while you go have 1,000 conversations and send 200,000 postcards.

My favorite parts?
1)The straightforwardness of the content
2)How Zen teaches you to position yourself
3)The efficiency of Zen's selling system

So if you DON'T want to be well prepared, confident, and able to help other business owners from a position of authority by efficiently producing your 9x12, don't invest $10. Otherwise, click the button above, invest the money and the time to go through this product, then immediately go out and take action.

ConradDeas
12-04-2013, 07:58 PM
Is it just me or is the buy it now button not working?

tomorrow 5December2013 at 8am EST

Vikuna
12-04-2013, 08:01 PM
How do you save a mp4 if you want to listen to it again?

Eva

Mitch
12-04-2013, 08:46 PM
20 cards in 2 years... holy crap!

Bob Ross
12-04-2013, 08:51 PM
I think everyone is gonna get confused, let's just open this up Zen!

ymherbst
12-04-2013, 09:36 PM
FYI - the JVzoo access page isn't working (I did buy it) ...

I've also been privileged to receive extensive personal coaching from Zenyatta .. you won't go wrong with this product, I can assure you

mojo
12-04-2013, 09:37 PM
I just bought and the product is downloading now. Not sure if the download will complete. It must be a pretty large file but it appears to be downloading.

suedove
12-04-2013, 09:47 PM
I just bought the product too but the download page comes up missing.
It says: "No webpage was found for the web address
Hopefully it will be fixed soon!

Bob Ross
12-04-2013, 09:54 PM
I put everything together for delivery but I'm not super experienced with JVzoo. Everything is uploaded fine so I'm guessing it has to be something on their end. Strange that Mojo says his is downloading but I'm getting emails now with people saying the page isn't working.

I'm going to get a direct link together I just need to upload it and stuff, I'll make a post as soon as I have it ready.

rfung
12-04-2013, 10:03 PM
Bought it, can't wait to get dig in. Thanks.

photoads
12-04-2013, 11:04 PM
Bob its working now

jtaylor
12-04-2013, 11:07 PM
Jake,

Hit "Try Again" and on the third try, it worked. Downloading now...

Thanks,
Joseph

Mitch
12-04-2013, 11:14 PM
Jake, I can purchase it but when I go to download from JVZoo, I get an error message...

File not found

Firefox can't find the file at https://www.jvzoo.com/products/download/AP-3142749552449762V.

Check the file name for capitalization or other typing errors.
Check to see if the file was moved, renamed or deleted.


I get the file not found now...

Bob Ross
12-04-2013, 11:20 PM
I just made a temporary fix, no one should have a problem now.

Vikuna
12-04-2013, 11:22 PM
How do you save a mp4 if you want to listen to it again?

Eva

Def worth it but need to know? You are getting a working system, all done in video format. Since there is no PDF with it, I need to upload and save so I can listen again (and again, lol).

Eva

Bob Ross
12-04-2013, 11:24 PM
Def worth it but need to know? You are getting a working system, all done in video format. Since there is no PDF with it, I need to upload and save so I can listen again (and again, lol).

Eva

Zen should probably export his videos all into mp4 audio only for listening as well as get it transcribed.

Ron99
12-04-2013, 11:25 PM
Or does it also cover if you want to hit more distant area not face to face for example if you are in a small town.

Ron

Zenyatta
12-04-2013, 11:30 PM
Or does it also cover if you want to hit more distant area not face to face for example if you are in a small town.

Ron

Hi Ron,

These are the exact strategies I have used to fill all my cards. Typically I am face to face but I have also done some unique twists on the 9x12s and those were more phone sales based. These strategies are universal whether face to face or on the phone and also for various products and services not just 9x12s.

Hope that Helps,
Zen

Vikuna
12-04-2013, 11:34 PM
Zen should probably export his videos all into mp4 audio only for listening as well as get it transcribed.

Does that mean I can save them? If he could get them transcribed, +5 rep to him!!

Eva

Bob Ross
12-04-2013, 11:37 PM
Eva are you still in contact with Caroline? She gave me a great deal on transcription I should contact her

Vikuna
12-04-2013, 11:42 PM
Eva are you still in contact with Caroline? She gave me a great deal on transcription I should contact her

We have not been in contact for some time but she will help you out with transcriptions,

Eva

greggorio28
12-05-2013, 12:43 AM
DONE! Going to dive in this weekend….Ive had my eye on Zen since I came back here.

People who speak softly with raw experience are the ones I respond to best. They KNOW what they do works and don't need to prove it by flapping their gums all day lol

Cheers guys, I can't wait to make 2014 the big one Ive been waiting for

doug
12-05-2013, 01:35 AM
Would it be possible to get the Postcard-Simple_Sales_Agreement file in "word" verses ODT? Or even in PDF form so I can retype it.

Zenyatta
12-05-2013, 01:47 AM
Cheers guys, I can't wait to make 2014 the big one Ive been waiting for

Thanks Greg!

Do you almost have those 9x12 unbranded samples ready to go for people? Once everyone realizes how lucrative as well as how much fun they can have meeting business owners doing walkin & talkin 9x12 sales they will definitely need your samples.

There is still time to put some serious cash in your stockings before Christmas. Then bust it wide open in 2014!

Keep on Keepin on Your Sales
are Right Around the Corner,
Zen

Eric Conover
12-05-2013, 02:28 AM
Troubles buying- I got:

Payment Error

PayPal reports that one fo the emails involved in this transaction is currently restricted. This purchase cannot be made currently.

Please use the Back Button to put in a different PayPal email address or click here to clear your cookies in order to purchase right now.
Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Earnings Disclaimer
© 2013 JVZoo.com

The trouble wasn't with my email because I got something else from JV Zoo tonight & it went fine. Just an FYI. Maybe you're selling so many that the famous "PayPal restriction" has been clamped down on you.

Zenyatta
12-05-2013, 03:34 AM
Troubles buying- I got:

Payment Error

PayPal reports that one fo the emails involved in this transaction is currently restricted. This purchase cannot be made currently.

Please use the Back Button to put in a different PayPal email address or click here to clear your cookies in order to purchase right now.
Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Earnings Disclaimer
© 2013 JVZoo.com

The trouble wasn't with my email because I got something else from JV Zoo tonight & it went fine. Just an FYI. Maybe you're selling so many that the famous "PayPal restriction" has been clamped down on you.

Hi Eric,

Thanks for letting me know that. Paypal is giving me fits! I think we ran too many transactions with them tonight. LOL I just corresponded with them and everything should be fine. Please try again and let me know if you have any further problems.

Thanks,
Zen

Zenyatta
12-05-2013, 03:37 AM
Would it be possible to get the Postcard-Simple_Sales_Agreement file in "word" verses ODT? Or even in PDF form so I can retype it.

Hey Doug,

I will have to get back to you on this tomorrow. Its been a long day and coming up on midnight so I'm heading to bed right now.

I will let you know,
Z

rfung
12-05-2013, 04:51 AM
Hi Zenyatta! Just went through your videos. Thanks for this. 2 thumbs up.

To everyone else, get this now; and kick butt for 2014

Eric Conover
12-05-2013, 10:38 AM
Hi Eric,

Thanks for letting me know that. Paypal is giving me fits! I think we ran too many transactions with them tonight. LOL I just corresponded with them and everything should be fine. Please try again and let me know if you have any further problems.

Thanks,
Zen

You got it sorted out because I GOT THE GOODS. I'm pretty excited to get 'em, too. Thanks for your work on this- it was needed.

Zenyatta
12-05-2013, 12:51 PM
Would it be possible to get the Postcard-Simple_Sales_Agreement file in "word" verses ODT? Or even in PDF form so I can retype it.

Hi Doug,

I went ahead and uploaded the sales agreement in pdf form.

I really use this form as a receipt more than anything. In the top right corner I write the clients CK#, amount, date whether its 50% deposit or paid in full and then sign it for their records.

You will notice the agreement is very one sided showing the prospect everything that we will be doing for them. When you collect 50% immediately and the balance when they sign off on your ad proof you have absolutely no risk. Also using the "no contracts" line in your sales conversation definitely lowers the barrier thus helping get more new clients to join our TEAM and give us a try.

Get out there and take massive action. You will feel a little weird, uncomfortable, and nervous initially(and thats okay) but after you discover that most local business owners love to talk shop and learn what is working for their fellow owners you will be well on your way.

Make sure they know you want to HELP THEM get more customers. Use those exact words when talking with them. "Our Marketing Co-op is a great TEAM of fellow local business owners and we want to help you get more local and loyal customers - we have a great new system that does just that - It works fantastic" then pull a 9x12 sample from your portfolio and watch their eyes light up. It is important to get them engaged and THEN pull out the 9x12 sample (don't let them see it before).

Put Some Christmas Cash in Your Stocking Today,
Zen

Achiz768
12-05-2013, 02:20 PM
I just finished going through Zen's 9x12 Zen Mastery course and I have to say that he's a bit crazy for letting this go for so cheap! Thank you, Zen/Scott for putting this out there- it's going to help a lot of people.

When I first started the 9x12 System it was Zen that reached out to me and let me have access to his sales training audio that helped both me and my husband fill our first card and put our first couple of thousand dollars in our bank account. The audio he includes with his course will help both newbies to the 9x12 system as well as those of us who have completed multiple cards as Zen really does a fantastic job helping you position yourself with confidence when doing cold walk ins to sell ad spots on your 9x12 cards. His audio will also help you position the benefits of the card and communicate those benefits effectively to prospects.

Zen's 9x12 Mastery course will help get your business organized too and will help you set your business up for success with his pricing template and advertising agreement. His postcard layouts really show you how flexible the 9x12 system is--I used his layout/samples as examples to fill my first postcard earlier this year so I know it works.

And his 10 Mistakes and How to Avoid them video series is a goldmine!

If you are serious about the 9x12 business and you've decided to do cold walk ins to close spots on your cards--then don't hesitate! Pick this course up today- seriously for less than $10 it's a steal. If you have salespeople working the card for you I can see how this would be a great training resource for them as well.

Zen has helped countless people in the forum already with his valuable insight and training resources---this guy knows what he's doing and he does it well. Thanks, Zen for sharing this with our community! You're going to help a lot of folks here.

searchpoint
12-05-2013, 02:24 PM
Hi Doug,

I went ahead and uploaded the sales agreement in pdf form.

I really use this form as a receipt more than anything. In the top right corner I write the clients CK#, amount, date whether its 50% deposit or paid in full and then sign it for their records.

You will notice the agreement is very one sided showing the prospect everything that we will be doing for them. When you collect 50% immediately and the balance when they sign off on your ad proof you have absolutely no risk. Also using the "no contracts" line in your sales conversation definitely lowers the barrier thus helping get more new clients to join our TEAM and give us a try.

Get out there and take massive action. You will feel a little weird, uncomfortable, and nervous initially(and thats okay) but after you discover that most local business owners love to talk shop and learn what is working for their fellow owners you will be well on your way.

Make sure they know you want to HELP THEM get more customers. Use those exact words when talking with them. "Our Marketing Co-op is a great TEAM of fellow local business owners and we want to help you get more local and loyal customers - we have a great new system that does just that - It works fantastic" then pull a 9x12 sample from your portfolio and watch their eyes light up. It is important to get them engaged and THEN pull out the 9x12 sample (don't let them see it before).

Put Some Christmas Cash in Your Stocking Today,
Zen


Hi Zen,

My partner and I jumped on the 9x12 system when it first came out and put out 2 cards in 2 different markets ... but it was a LOT of work and very difficult to get local biz owners to part with their money (even at reduced prices). I've been thinking about jumping back into it though because I do believe in the system. Your approach sounds very interesting and you can't argue with your results.

My question is this: Given your experience with this, do you really think it's feasible to get something going this close to Christmas, given that it's the end of the year and businesses may not have any budget left for new marketing initiatives?

Thanks,
Rich

Zenyatta
12-05-2013, 02:44 PM
I just finished going through Zen's 9x12 Zen Mastery course and I have to say that he's a bit crazy for letting this go for so cheap! Thank you, Zen/Scott for putting this out there- it's going to help a lot of people.

When I first started the 9x12 System it was Zen that reached out to me and let me have access to his sales training audio that helped both me and my husband fill our first card and put our first couple of thousand dollars in our bank account. The audio he includes with his course will help both newbies to the 9x12 system as well as those of us who have completed multiple cards as Zen really does a fantastic job helping you position yourself with confidence when doing cold walk ins to sell ad spots on your 9x12 cards. His audio will also help you position the benefits of the card and communicate those benefits effectively to prospects.

Zen's 9x12 Mastery course will help get your business organized too and will help you set your business up for success with his pricing template and advertising agreement. His postcard layouts really show you how flexible the 9x12 system is--I used his layout/samples as examples to fill my first postcard earlier this year so I know it works.

And his 10 Mistakes and How to Avoid them video series is a goldmine!

If you are serious about the 9x12 business and you've decided to do cold walk ins to close spots on your cards--then don't hesitate! Pick this course up today- seriously for less than $10 it's a steal. If you have salespeople working the card for you I can see how this would be a great training resource for them as well.

Zen has helped countless people in the forum already with his valuable insight and training resources---this guy knows what he's doing and he does it well. Thanks, Zen for sharing this with our community! You're going to help a lot of folks here.

Thanks Amber I really appreciate the kind words. It is priced low but I just wanted to Pay it Forward to Jake and the other originals that provided the tools, ideas, & inspiration for me early on.

9x12s ROCK,
Zen

Zenyatta
12-05-2013, 02:52 PM
Hi Zen,

My partner and I jumped on the 9x12 system when it first came out and put out 2 cards in 2 different markets ... but it was a LOT of work and very difficult to get local biz owners to part with their money (even at reduced prices). I've been thinking about jumping back into it though because I do believe in the system. Your approach sounds very interesting and you can't argue with your results.

My question is this: Given your experience with this, do you really think it's feasible to get something going this close to Christmas, given that it's the end of the year and businesses may not have any budget left for new marketing initiatives?

Thanks,
Rich

Hi Rich,

Love that name!! To fill cards faster and easier especially at first is dependent on proper targeting, precise positioning, getting warm as well as direct referrals and of course as you mentioned massive action.

The beauty is your cards get easier and easier the longer you stay at it. Of course your confidence builds so your closing ratio does as well, but the secret is really in how you scale to future cards using the leverage of your current 9x12 clients.

Of course it's all covered in Zen MASTERY. Get back on the horse and ride em to the bank.

You are Your Future - Make it Happen,
Zen

searchpoint
12-05-2013, 03:32 PM
Hi Rich,

Love that name!! To fill cards faster and easier especially at first is dependent on proper targeting, precise positioning, getting warm as well as direct referrals and of course as you mentioned massive action.

The beauty is your cards get easier and easier the longer you stay at it. Of course your confidence builds so your closing ratio does as well, but the secret is really in how you scale to future cards using the leverage of your current 9x12 clients.

Of course it's all covered in Zen MASTERY. Get back on the horse and ride em to the bank.

You are Your Future - Make it Happen,
Zen

Thanks for the quick reply and for sharing your thoughts. You're absolutely right ... it takes total commitment and massive effort (like anything else worthwhile).

greggorio28
12-05-2013, 04:46 PM
So here's a funny story that happened today, to further talk about how EASY it can be to open dialogue with business owners and get them interested....

I spent the first hour of my day (my birthday no less!) in the dentist chair getting a cavity filled at 9am (doh!) and it hit me about 15 minutes into the procedure. My dentist is NEW, referred to me from my old dentist who recently retired and I wanted to test the waters with him to see how many patients have converted to his new office.

So I begin by saying this to him:

(ME): "Hey so how has the patient conversion process been going for you from Doctor Prior?"

(DENTIST): "Ehhh its been a slow process we are still chasing after half of them to come to our new office and resume their scheduled cleanings and checkups, etc"

(ME): "Hmmm, sounds like you could use a boost to get your appointment all booked up tight huh?"

(DENTIST): "Absolutely, so why do you ask do you handle that sorta stuff?"

(ME): "Yeah...without sounding pitchy I actually run a co-op mail program and have a great printer so I can get rock bottom printing and distribution."
"Basically I can get you in front of tons of local households for WAY cheaper than it used to be.....in fact its less than HALF of what it traditionally costs."

(DENTIST): "Wow. Cool. Yeah lets chat in the new year and see what kinda deal we can come up with...."


It was THAT. DARN. EASY. And I am not a salesy kinda guy, in fact I run from that sort of thing. Its all about your confidence, looseness, delivery and knowledge of your product. People respond well to product knowledge and confidence.

doug
12-06-2013, 01:16 AM
Hi Doug,

I went ahead and uploaded the sales agreement in pdf form.



Zen I can't seem to find this PDF. Where should I be looking for it? I redownloaded the zip file from the "boring" page.

Zenyatta
12-06-2013, 03:08 AM
Zen I can't seem to find this PDF. Where should I be looking for it? I redownloaded the zip file from the "boring" page.

Hey Doug,

Look in the first folder titled 9x12 Billboard Postcard Files. It should be the last file in there titled Your Simple Sales Agreement.

Zen

rob
12-06-2013, 04:01 AM
Hi Zen,

Do you include any sample 9x12's with this product that we can print on our own and show prospects?

Thanks!

Bob Ross
12-06-2013, 10:17 AM
Hi Zen,

Do you include any sample 9x12's with this product that we can print on our own and show prospects?

Thanks!

Zen included the pricing template he uses as well as the layouts he uses (I don't remember offhand but I think these are in full resolution and print-ready). However you can buy samples through him or I as well.

greggorio28
12-06-2013, 10:18 AM
...so Ive just poured a fresh cup of coffee....have some light ambient iTunes radio blasting in my earphones on this rainy Friday morning in Philly.....and about to crank open Zen's MASTERY!!

THIS IS GOING TO BE AN EPIC DAY.

I am about to upgrade my business arsenal with some serious ammunition mwauahahaaa

doug
12-06-2013, 11:17 AM
Hey Doug,

Look in the first folder titled 9x12 Billboard Postcard Files. It should be the last file in there titled Your Simple Sales Agreement.

Zen

Not sure if I'm downloading the right file, but just redownloaded the file again and looked where you said and it is still the ODT file.

Zenyatta
12-06-2013, 11:46 AM
Not sure if I'm downloading the right file, but just redownloaded the file again and looked where you said and it is still the ODT file.

Hi Doug,

You might try clearing cache and refreshing to bring in the new file. It is definitely showing on my side.

How about everyone else? Are you seeing the new PDF file for the sales agreement? In the meantime I went ahead and pm'd the direct link.

Add your company info, then print out 12 of them, then go out today, tomorrow, and next week and give them to your new clients that just reserved space on your 9x12.

Fridays a Great Sales Day,
Zen

Zenyatta
12-06-2013, 11:59 AM
My question is this: Given your experience with this, do you really think it's feasible to get something going this close to Christmas, given that it's the end of the year and businesses may not have any budget left for new marketing initiatives?

Thanks,
Rich

Hi Rich,

I realized that I didn't answer your specific question in my previous post. You are right it is too close to Christmas to fill a card for that especially for people filling their first cards.

Tell prospects you are going to hit the ground running with the card going out in January to make 2014 the best year yet. You collect your 50% down now and can even get your ad designs done to collect your full balance so you have some extra Christmas cash.

Also use the line with your clients if you write the check for the full amount in 2013 you will be able to include in this years tax deductions. The other cool benefit is you won't get the objection I already spent my marketing budget since its a brand new year.

So hit the streets today and start collecting those checks. It's not always easy but it sure is fun.

Win the Sales Game,
Zen

WayneClayton
12-06-2013, 01:22 PM
Zen
I have gone through your program, 9X12 Zen MASTERY two times this week. I like it. I am not on the warrior forum, and have my own opinions about the real value of the "products" sold there. Let me say however I find yours to be real world, take-it to-the-bank info. There is a very real difference between business wannabees who can have some minor success and then go out and create a product to sell to unsuspecting noobs, and someone, like you, who has successfully done the real thing repeatedly for months/years. I appreciate you sharing your blood, sweat, and tears... for literally pennies.

Wayne

greggorio28
12-06-2013, 03:06 PM
Zen
I have gone through your program, 9X12 Zen MASTERY two times this week. I like it. I am not on the warrior forum, and have my own opinions about the real value of the "products" sold there. Let me say however I find yours to be real world, take-it to-the-bank info. There is a very real difference between business wannabees who can have some minor success and then go out and create a product to sell to unsuspecting noobs, and someone, like you, who has successfully done the real thing repeatedly for months/years. I appreciate you sharing your blood, sweat, and tears... for literally pennies.

Wayne

Totally agreed Wayne. Like I said, somrtimes its hard to gain a REAL sense of a person based on an internet forum. But when they are able to convey confidence and results in a non-flashy way...it gets my attention...and I investigate.

Zen you are the real deal. Lots of folks on here can prosper with these tools. And some are so basic in nature but EXACTLY what many folks need to succeed. Everyone can learn from this. I just got through the first half...will resume later tonight but much value has already been absorbed. Great package Zen, and VERY affordable :)

searchpoint
12-06-2013, 04:34 PM
Hi Rich,

I realized that I didn't answer your specific question in my previous post. You are right it is too close to Christmas to fill a card for that especially for people filling their first cards.

Tell prospects you are going to hit the ground running with the card going out in January to make 2014 the best year yet. You collect your 50% down now and can even get your ad designs done to collect your full balance so you have some extra Christmas cash.

Also use the line with your clients if you write the check for the full amount in 2013 you will be able to include in this years tax deductions. The other cool benefit is you won't get the objection I already spent my marketing budget since its a brand new year.

So hit the streets today and start collecting those checks. It's not always easy but it sure is fun.

Win the Sales Game,
Zen

Thanks for following up - great points.

- Rich

doug
12-06-2013, 08:41 PM
Thanks Zen for all the help. I'm loving your program and all the support you've given. Your program is worth way more than your charging.

eharrisjr
12-06-2013, 10:06 PM
Zen, thanks for a great product! Question. can you give any idea or samples for an effective business cards.

Zenyatta
12-06-2013, 10:46 PM
Zen, thanks for a great product! Question. can you give any idea or samples for an effective business cards.

Hey E,

Its definitely more about you and your conversation with the business owner than the card.

I just use my SMS cards which look like an IPhone with rounded corners and my title is Marketing Consultant and listing direct mail co-ops.

Are you still interested in starting your own SMS Local Mobile Directory for your 9x12 restaurant clients for 2014? Let me know when you are ready and I can help you get started.

Take Massive Action,
Zen

PS I will load the IPhone business card template in the Dropbox folder. I also have my picture on mine to try and connect with potential clients. The card gets compliments and people remember it. It's also a great tie in when you start your SMS Local Mobile Directory business.

eharrisjr
12-06-2013, 11:09 PM
Yes, I'm still interested. I'm taking one step at a time. I'm a newbie to the marketing business. Thanks

Goblue1918
12-07-2013, 12:48 PM
E,

Don't worry about the business cards. That is only going delay you starting. Just get out there and meet with the business owners. Put together a simple 1 page flyer with your contact information as a leave behind.

After you get a card finished that can be your business card along with the flyer stapled to it.

The more administrative things you think you need, the longer it will be before your first sale.

Website - not needed - do later
Business cards - not needed - I still don't have any after 18 months
Phone # - Use a Google Voice # and add the app to your smartphone - Free
Shoes - Not needed, but many businesses tend to require these so I tend to wear them.

After you get a card or two out you will have money to pay someone to do the things above if you still want them.

(Hopefully you will need new shoes because they are worn out from walking into businesses)

Just my 2 cents.

Bill

Mitch
12-07-2013, 03:43 PM
Hey E,

Its definitely more about you and your conversation with the business owner than the card.

I just use my SMS cards which look like an IPhone with rounded corners and my title is Marketing Consultant and listing direct mail co-ops.

Are you still interested in starting your own SMS Local Mobile Directory for your 9x12 restaurant clients for 2014? Let me know when you are ready and I can help you get started.

Take Massive Action,
Zen

PS I will load the IPhone business card template in the Dropbox folder. I also have my picture on mine to try and connect with potential clients. The card gets compliments and people remember it. It's also a great tie in when you start your SMS Local Mobile Directory business.


Hi Zen... thanks for the great info in your "Zen Mastery" plan... watching videos right now!!!


What is an SMS Local Mobile Directory?

Toolkit
12-07-2013, 08:06 PM
Just wanted to say thanks to Zenyatta for the chance to review the Zen Mastery course. WHAT A VALUE!! You can't possibly be serious about success with the 9x12 system without having this guide.

Why would you? Let me ask you: If you had the chance to meet a successful owner of any business you were considering, and the owner offered to not only spend hours detailing how best to do the business, but also record the conversation and give you the necessary written documents ALL FOR THE PRICE OF BUYING HIM LUNCH...Would you do that?

Of course you would! This is essentially the "franchise" guide of what to do, and what not to do. The business model may be simple, but you want to have every edge possible because the difference between a no and a yes is in the perception of value by the business owner. If you can't make the value clearly worth more than the cost...No sale. The guide gives you so many ways to increase your "batting average". Just one extra sale made pays for the course many times over. Highly recommended!

Zenyatta
12-08-2013, 01:44 AM
Hi Zen... thanks for the great info in your "Zen Mastery" plan... watching videos right now!!!


What is an SMS Local Mobile Directory?

Hi Mitch,

The SMS Local Mobile Directory is a unique business model I created after 2.5yr+ in the local business trenches working with Text Marketing campaigns. It is a great complement to the 9x12 program and also provides you automatic monthly recurring income. That way you won't have to resell it in the next month or quarter.

We get our local restaurants gladly building a master subscriber list that we control. We market to these local restaurant goers that have opted in and want to see mobile image coupons and deals from us each week. So we are marketing on the absolute best marketing medium available a person mobile phone. Of course you have your phone with you 24/7.

When that text bell dings the majority of people immediately look at their phones and see our offers via a Local Mobile Directory. With a 98% open rate we don't have to worry about them not opening emails, delayed viewing on Facebook, or the high cost of various other marketing mediums.

Imagine having the same response to your SMS restaurant offers as a 9x12 except you do can do it every week or two, not quarterly or however often you mail your 9x12s now. You also will not have to pay $1600 in postage in time. Your clients will also get a better ROI since you can charge them less. So you also have more stability and get that much desired client longevity. The key is in your responsive subscriber list and we teach you how to leverage 10, 20, 30, or more local restaurants to build that list quickly with the right type of customers.

Watch your 9x12 Zen Mastery Dropbox folder for a cool video bonus probably tomorrow as well as a double secret bonus that will enlighten and entitle you with more info about this unique SMS System. Its exciting stuff so don't miss it. Get ready to build real business asset in 2014.

2014 Will Be Fantastic,
Zen

doug
12-08-2013, 01:53 AM
Is our 9x12 Zen Mastery Dropbox folder the same one that is under the page "boring"?

Zenyatta
12-08-2013, 02:34 AM
Is our 9x12 Zen Mastery Dropbox folder the same one that is under the page "boring"?

Hi Doug,

Not sure where you are seeing a folder labeled boring? It's labeled "9x12 Zen Mastery".

Zen

drtao
12-08-2013, 03:49 AM
Why didn't I know about this offering before the deadline?

drtao
12-08-2013, 11:23 AM
I must have thought this was the No Face to Face I just bought. :(

Zenyatta
12-08-2013, 02:15 PM
Is our 9x12 Zen Mastery Dropbox folder the same one that is under the page "boring"?

Hi Doug,

I apologize, my bad. Yes everything is in that "boring" folder. As you can tell I am more of a sales guy than a product creator.

Jake has graciously handled all the behind the scenes coordination of getting everyone access to their files. So he pulls info from my Dropbox folder but then connects in JVZoo using the folder you mentioned.

There will be a couple new bonuses in their shortly so make sure and check them out.

Is Your 2014 Gameplan Set?
Zen

Zenyatta
12-08-2013, 03:39 PM
Thanks to everyone on the overwhelming response to Zen Mastery. We just uploaded some bonuses to your download area so be sure to check them out.

Looking forward to hearing your success stories on how you will become a Zen Master in 2014. Please keep us posted here in the forum on your progress!

Take Your Business to the Next Level,
Zen

Vikuna
12-08-2013, 03:44 PM
Thanks to everyone on the overwhelming response to Zen Mastery. We just uploaded some bonuses to your download area so be sure to check them out.

Looking forward to hearing your success stories on how you will become a Zen Master in 2014. Please keep us posted here in the forum on your progress!

Take Your Business to the Next Level,
Zen

And A Master you are, lol. You have put a lot of time and energy into this and it is surely appreciated. I do hope most have bought it by now. BTW, when does the price go up or has it already? No matter what, still a worthy investment!

Eva

emarrufo
12-08-2013, 05:07 PM
I just purchased this the other day, great program! Could we get the 5 videos in MP3 format, would love to ad to my MP3 Player it's so old/cheap it only plays mp3's nothing else.

Thanks
Rick

Mister Natural
12-08-2013, 05:24 PM
I just purchased this the other day, great program! Could we get the 5 videos in MP3 format, would love to ad to my MP3 Player it's so old/cheap it only plays mp3's nothing else.

Thanks
Rick

FREEMAKE VIDEO CONVERTER is a free and excellent tool. Will convert those into just about anything you want, especially MP3's,,
and in a flash.

http://www.freemake.com/free_video_converter/

Vikuna
12-08-2013, 05:38 PM
FREEMAKE VIDEO CONVERTER is a free and excellent tool. Will convert those into just about anything you want, especially MP3's,,
and in a flash.

http://www.freemake.com/free_video_converter/

I just tried converting with Wondershare which is also free or so I thought... Converting a url is not free however, is it the same with Freemake?

Eva

TonyD
12-08-2013, 05:40 PM
I purchased this, but i'm a little confused about what download area you're talking about for the bonuses.

Vikuna
12-08-2013, 06:05 PM
I just tried converting with Wondershare which is also free or so I thought... Converting a url is not free however, is it the same with Freemake?

Eva

Ok, I volunteered to download Freemake, "Failed to obtain video info" is what I am getting from video #2 which is in MP4 format. I copied the link but it does paste by itself and it failed, go figure... Now I am stuck with "freeware" that I need to clean out. Thanks for trying,

Eva

doug
12-08-2013, 06:19 PM
Hi Doug,

I apologize, my bad. Yes everything is in that "boring" folder. As you can tell I am more of a sales guy than a product creator.

Jake has graciously handled all the behind the scenes coordination of getting everyone access to their files. So he pulls info from my Dropbox folder but then connects in JVZoo using the folder you mentioned.

There will be a couple new bonuses in their shortly so make sure and check them out.

Is Your 2014 Gameplan Set?
Zen

Thanks for clearing that up. I found it.

I'm setting up my gameplan for 2014 right now and you helped clarify it. Thank you.

Mister Natural
12-08-2013, 06:32 PM
Ok, I volunteered to download Freemake, "Failed to obtain video info" is what I am getting from video #2 which is in MP4 format. I copied the link but it does paste by itself and it failed, go figure... Now I am stuck with "freeware" that I need to clean out. Thanks for trying,

Eva
What?
Download FreemakeVC,

Click on blue Video button navigate to the main ZenMastery file, navigate further to the zenmastery video1. Click on the MP4 video which will appear in Freemake, then select which format you want to convert the MP4 into,,, 1 minute later you should be done.
There should be no url's involved in this process if the files are on your machine.

eharrisjr
12-08-2013, 06:41 PM
Hello,

Ok, I purchased the 9x12 Zen Mastery on Thursday. I received the zip file, but how do you get to dropbox for the bonuses? Did I miss it in the file? Sorry, I'm not very tech savvy.

Bob Ross
12-08-2013, 06:45 PM
If you go to the jvzoo purchase, and click to go to the download, it will take you right there.

eharrisjr
12-08-2013, 07:19 PM
Bob,

I just login to Jvzoo and it do not show my purchase for 9x12 Zen Mastery here is my Transaction Id: AP-54E50214TY5541902

TonyD
12-08-2013, 07:30 PM
Go to jvzoo.com, in the top right you can click on "my purchases", it should show 9x12 Zen Master, click on "view details", it will bring you to a congratulations page for the purchases and at the bottom right there will be a button labeled "Access your purchase", click on that and it will bring you a page that says "click here to download", click on that and it will bring you to the folders for the program. At the top right there is a download button where you can click and just re-download the zip file that will include the bonus material.

eharrisjr
12-08-2013, 07:34 PM
TonyD,

I try that already still show no purchase.

Mister Natural
12-08-2013, 07:36 PM
If you go to the jvzoo purchase, and click to go to the download, it will take you right there.

I went to my email to collect the crazy password they provided and WOW,,,, what do you know? JVZoo is a bunch of spamming mofo's !!!! Jeeezus spam spam spam spam spam,,,,Spammity Spammmm

So Bob are you hooking people up with the Helton voice blaster set up as a courtesy outside of the Members area?

I was hoping Zen would have completed his "to do list" at the post office. I thought that might be an interesting perspective on things.
His Zen Mastery is a good blue print. After being on this forum for so long I have "learned" or "assembled" the same steps in my own prospecting. Meaning, I actually learned "something" from this forum. BUT,,,, when you compare notes amongst one another, it's always interesting to see a new twist devised by another creative thinker. And Zen's course turned me onto a solid step in regards to "scaling" that I had overlooked. So for me, that was a good informative twist.

Vikuna
12-08-2013, 07:48 PM
I am such a technical moron that it is not even funny! Somehow I managed to listen to the videos in mp4 and by some stroke of luck, also managed to download the zip files, lol. All is well now,

Eva

eharrisjr
12-08-2013, 07:58 PM
Bob,

I sent you my PayPal receipt to itsbobross@gmail.com. Pleassse, take a look to see if we can resolve this issue. I like to download info to my tablet and read during lunch tomorrow.--Thanks

Bob Ross
12-08-2013, 07:59 PM
TonyD,

I try that already still show no purchase.

I replied to your email and gave you the link, sorry for the pain JVzoo puts you through!


I went to my email to collect the crazy password they provided and WOW,,,, what do you know? JVZoo is a bunch of spamming mofo's !!!! Jeeezus spam spam spam spam spam,,,,Spammity Spammmm

So Bob are you hooking people up with the Helton voice blaster set up as a courtesy outside of the Members area?

I was hoping Zen would have completed his "to do list" at the post office. I thought that might be an interesting perspective on things.
His Zen Mastery is a good blue print. After being on this forum for so long I have "learned" or "assembled" the same steps in my own prospecting. Meaning, I actually learned "something" from this forum. BUT,,,, when you compare notes amongst one another, it's always interesting to see a new twist devised by another creative thinker. And Zen's course turned me onto a solid step in regards to "scaling" that I had overlooked. So for me, that was a good informative twist.

Jvzoo has a lot of cool features and a nice looking interface but wow is everything screwy there besides that. Warriorplus looks like it's from 1998 but it works so much better.

What do you mean by hooking people up with the blaster? It's only for sale inside the members area, I don't know what ya mean.

eharrisjr
12-08-2013, 08:02 PM
Bob,
I got your email. Thanks!! You're The Greatest!

Zenyatta
12-08-2013, 08:55 PM
Hey MN,

Did you get a chance to listen to the bonus material? That deals with shipping your 9x12s and what to do with facing slips and the Post Office, along with other tips and tricks. Is that what you were looking for?

Thanks Bro,
Zen


I went to my email to collect the crazy password they provided and WOW,,,, what do you know? JVZoo is a bunch of spamming mofo's !!!! Jeeezus spam spam spam spam spam,,,,Spammity Spammmm

So Bob are you hooking people up with the Helton voice blaster set up as a courtesy outside of the Members area?

I was hoping Zen would have completed his "to do list" at the post office. I thought that might be an interesting perspective on things.
His Zen Mastery is a good blue print. After being on this forum for so long I have "learned" or "assembled" the same steps in my own prospecting. Meaning, I actually learned "something" from this forum. BUT,,,, when you compare notes amongst one another, it's always interesting to see a new twist devised by another creative thinker. And Zen's course turned me onto a solid step in regards to "scaling" that I had overlooked. So for me, that was a good informative twist.

AntonyB
12-08-2013, 09:29 PM
Zen should probably export his videos all into mp4 audio only for listening as well as get it transcribed.

Any news regarding getting the videos transcribed?

Just started going through this now and while the content may be good i am disappointed that there are no transcripts included, videos are good but i like to have something to read.

Vikuna
12-08-2013, 10:02 PM
Any news regarding getting the videos transcribed?

Just started going through this now and while the content may be good i am disappointed that there are no transcripts included, videos are good but i like to have something to read.

I think Bob was planning to contact someone for transcription but have not heard anything yet. I agree with you, actually tried to make a word document out of one video but I do not type that fast anymore, lol,

Eva

Zenyatta
12-08-2013, 10:19 PM
Any news regarding getting the videos transcribed?

Just started going through this now and while the content may be good i am disappointed that there are no transcripts included, videos are good but i like to have something to read.

Hi Antony,

Hadn't planned on doing this but you and Vikuna have requested it. I will see what I can do.

I am buried right now so in the meantime here is a link for you & Vikina to the Top 10 free softwares to do this transcription. I am sure that you will be interested in using these for doing your own transcriptions on future audios & videos:

http://www.vagueware.com/top-10-free-transcription-software-that-are-essential-to-your-va-or-transcription-business/ .

Please let me know if either of you get these transcribed ahead of me.

Thanks For Your Help,
Zen

eharrisjr
12-08-2013, 10:28 PM
Hello Zen,

When get a chance I just PM'd you.

Thanks
EJ

doug
12-08-2013, 10:32 PM
Zen
And I PM'd you as will in regards to the bonus video. I know your busy just want to make sure you got it.
Doug

Bob Ross
12-08-2013, 10:47 PM
I emailed caroline who is an old member here and did my split strike transcription, I'm just waiting to hear back.

If she doesn't ill outsource it.

Vikuna
12-08-2013, 10:47 PM
@Zen-I had another "DUH" moment after watching all the videos but especially after watching the bonus videos and how you package everything etc. What struck me was that your cards have only 6 ads per side? So what do you charge them? It looks really nice by the way but you have to charge more with only 6 ads per side?

Eva

Mister Natural
12-08-2013, 10:53 PM
Hey MN,

Did you get a chance to listen to the bonus material? That deals with shipping your 9x12s and what to do with facing slips and the Post Office, along with other tips and tricks. Is that what you were looking for?

Thanks Bro,
Zen
I believe so, I found the Double Secret files.,, Once I clicked past "My Purchases" page.

Zenyatta
12-08-2013, 11:27 PM
@Zen-I had another "DUH" moment after watching all the videos but especially after watching the bonus videos and how you package everything etc. What struck me was that your cards have only 6 ads per side? So what do you charge them? It looks really nice by the way but you have to charge more with only 6 ads per side?

Eva

Hi Eva,

I do cards from 12 to 17 spaces but typically yes in the 12,13, or 14 range. I charge $395, $495, & $595 for small, medium, & large spaces which is only 4,5, or 6 cents per view.

I only net about 3k per card but I can fill them faster and my clients get better engagement and response so I get more repeat biz in the long run.

Cheers,
Zen

Zenyatta
12-08-2013, 11:31 PM
I emailed caroline who is an okd member here and did my split strike transcription, I'm just waiting to hear back.

If she doesn't ill outsource it.

I am also checking with Andrew a gracious forum member. He has already converted the videos to mp3s & I will supply these to Jake. If you would like access to the mp3s please pm Jake.

Zen

Vikuna
12-08-2013, 11:36 PM
Hi Eva,

I do cards from 12 to 17 spaces but typically yes in the 12,13, or 14 range. I charge $395, $495, & $595 for small, medium, & large spaces which is only 4,5, or 6 cents per view.

I only net about 3k per card but I can fill them faster and my clients get better engagement and response so I get more repeat biz in the long run.

Cheers,
Zen

Thank you for your quick reply Zen, totally makes sense. Less intimidating for someone just starting out too. Making $3,000 per card, making it faster and looking for long term solutions to make it easier for everybody = $$$ I like it!

Eva

Zenyatta
12-08-2013, 11:41 PM
I believe so, I found the Double Secret files.,, Once I clicked past "My Purchases" page.

Hey MN,

I think the regular bonus video about 15 minutes has the info you were trying to locate.

Cheers,
Zen

Zenyatta
12-08-2013, 11:43 PM
Thank you for your quick reply Zen, totally makes sense. Less intimidating for someone just starting out too. Making $3,000 per card, making it faster and looking for long term solutions to make it easier for everybody = $$$ I like it!

Eva

Thanks Eva - I guess I could call it an M12 LOL Z

timpears
12-09-2013, 01:32 AM
Boy, wish this had come out when I was trying to do this. I got disillusioned and quit. I couldn't get through to the owners and make them understand. Oh well, I always seem to be a day late and a dollar short.

Someone gave me the link for this thread.

Zenyatta
12-09-2013, 02:46 AM
Boy, wish this had come out when I was trying to do this. I got disillusioned and quit. I couldn't get through to the owners and make them understand. Oh well, I always seem to be a day late and a dollar short.

Someone gave me the link for this thread.

Hey Tim,

Jump on in the 9x12 market is great - you aren't a day late and once you start selling your spaces you won't be a dollar short either.

Cheers,
Zen

Olddavy
12-09-2013, 09:50 AM
Hi! Zen... Davy here. Bob said you may be able to supply me with some of your past cards.
I bought a few from Bob when he first came out with his program and they helped show potential customers what this program is all about. He said to contact you.

Since you have so many out, I thought I'd ask you about purchasing a few to update my sales.

Anyone else on this forum... I would be glad to talk to you as well for sample cards.

I'm from a small town in Kansas and would probably be better off selling in Wichita (Closest big city)

Please PM me with details.

Thanks so much!
Davy

Bob Ross
12-09-2013, 01:12 PM
Just got a hold of caroline, she's going to transcribe the videos and the audio. Will be ready in 3-4 days.

greggorio28
12-09-2013, 03:08 PM
Just listened to everything in this mastery prospecting kit twice (going to do a third listen shortly), and the 3 magic words that resonated with me again and again that I COMPLETELY missed my first time around selling ad spaces are this:

LOCAL. MARKETING. CO-OP.

I was seriously saying ALL of the things you mentioned in the video Zen. You really have zeroed in on what works, and what doesnt. I'll be honest, when I returned here I was PRAYING that some of the more take-charge memebrs would have refined this system into a nice streamlined prospecting kit....and this is absolutely one of them thats a true necessity! I can actually think back to many of the objections I got....all circling back to mistakes covered in the videos. I seriously would have had my first card filled in half the time...and repeat advertisers had I done this the right way and not pulled the plug early.

Obviously there's much much more in this kit to absorb...but that one really hit home for me. There are more but I dont wanna give up spoilers...

Well done sir, you have armed me with so much more knowledge and confidence that my Jan-Feb 2014 postcard is already looking that much sweeter! I'm back in this game now baby....I've already lined up 2 interested biz owners and have 4 hot leads to follow up on and I havent even broke a sweat yet, this was all low hanging fruit stemming from my website launch! All made possible from confident, casual convo and some of the new tools I learned from this Mastery kit.

Details and a regularly-updated postcard success thread to come soon! This is gonna be fun

greggorio28
12-09-2013, 03:19 PM
...and not to sell Jake short. YOU have made all of this possible my friend. YOU were the vehicle to sparking my interest in offline marketing and have proven yourself time and time again that this is a tried and true system for residual income...and the sky is the f##king limit!!

Man, I am really recharged again after reading Amber's FAST system and now Zen's mastery. I will be happy to write up testimonials once I put this into action because I KNOW its going to work for me.

My goal for 2014 is this:
Being able to walk out of the corporate world of graphic design I'm currently stuck in.....and exploding my business into a local (and remote) marketing machine!

eharrisjr
12-09-2013, 09:54 PM
Ok, today I put Zen mastery in action. After work I visit five stores. I got three "I need to talk with my partner" I guess that mean "no"...lol The other two said not now. I think I will drop price to small 275, medium 375 and 475. I will try again after work.

Zenyatta
12-09-2013, 10:40 PM
Ok, today I put Zen mastery in action. After work I visit five stores. I got three "I need to talk with my partner" I guess that mean "no"...lol The other two said not now. I think I will drop price to small 275, medium 375 and 475. I will try again after work.

Hey E,

Good job taking action - those first 5 or 10 presentations are probably the hardest. I had a few questions. Did you specifically target these 5 businesses? Are they spending a lot on advertising with your competitors? Maybe Valpak or on daily deal sites? Were any of the businesses new, just relocated, currently doing direct mail? What types of businesses were the 5 you visited?

A business owner saying they need to check with a partner does NOT necessarily mean no. Actually if they have a partner that is a common course of action - dont assume it means no! Did you ask direct questions to them to gauge their personal interest? Did you find out when the partner is available so you can present to both of them at the same time?


Please stay positive and persistent and keep posting here so we can help you and others that are just getting started.

Thanks,
Zen

eharrisjr
12-09-2013, 11:16 PM
Zen,

Thanks, well I have a target list from groupon, valpak and red plum, but today I just stop at a shopping strip and started going store to store. I went to a pizza shop, Hawaiian BBQ, auto shop, Cajun restaurant and a Gold buyer (pawn shop). Zen, you maybe right I felt like a had the gold buyer interests. I have to admit I went into brain lock mode on my first store and I just was listening to your audio in my car...lol

Zenyatta
12-10-2013, 12:11 AM
Zen,

Thanks, well I have a target list from groupon, valpak and red plum, but today I just stop at a shopping strip and started going store to store. I went to a pizza shop, Hawaiian BBQ, auto shop, Cajun restaurant and a Gold buyer (pawn shop). Zen, you maybe right I felt like a had the gold buyer interests. I have to admit I went into brain lock mode on my first store and I just was listening to your audio in my car...lol

Hey E,

Congrats on taking action you are ahead of the majority of the people out there. A little brain lock or freeze is to be expected. You will be a pro in short order. Keep listening to the videos and making presentations. Andrew here on the forum turned all the videos into mp3s if you are interested. That way you can load them on your phone or iPod to listen to during breaks and right before presenting.

Stay after the gold buyer and I bet they reserve a space. I have had 3 different gold buyers and they should be one if your easier closes. Sometimes it will take 2 or even 3 to 4 visits to get them to see the light and reserve their space. This is especially true early on as you continue to improve your presentations and build your confidence.

Stay after it - I know you can make it happen.

Don't Quit & You Won't Fail,
Zen

jonny
12-10-2013, 04:15 AM
Is there a special area set aside in this forum like for remote controlling or Amber's program for those of us who've purchased Zenmastery?
It would be great to discuss Zenmastery with others who have also purchased.
thanks

Zenyatta
12-10-2013, 10:52 AM
Is there a special area set aside in this forum like for remote controlling or Amber's program for those of us who've purchased Zenmastery?
It would be great to discuss Zenmastery with others who have also purchased.
thanks

Hi Jonny,

We can do that right here on this thread. I invite anyone getting out there and making sales presentations to post on their successes as well as questions regarding targeting, positioning, presenting, asking for the order, overcoming objections, as well as fulfillment & follow up. We are all here as a TEAM to make as many members of this forum successful if they are willing to put in the work.

Make 2014 Your Best Year Yet,
Zen

jonny
12-10-2013, 12:29 PM
Great Zen, the population of a high income suburb I'm planning to focus my 9x12 on has only 12,000 people. If I focus on the high income areas I get about 5-6000 homes so I've decided to break it up into 3 suburbs and focusing on the highest income areas ($98,000 and up). The problem is I then have less areas available to scale things up (as you've suggested) since I'm already hitting all 3 areas. What income ranges are you targeting? I'm thinking maybe I should do 2 suburbs and include incomes down to $70k ish. What advice could you give? I love that you said how many times a day people open their fridge. I did a direct mail piece in 07 and specifically told people to put it on their fridge. The last call I got from that campaign was 2 years ago in 2011. Over the years when I got a call, I'd ask them how they got my number and they said "you sent me a note and I had it on my fridge". It's amazing what people do if you just TELL them to do it. :)
On a side note, I wonder how many high income households put coupons on their fancy fridges...

Zenyatta
12-10-2013, 04:11 PM
Great Zen, the population of a high income suburb I'm planning to focus my 9x12 on has only 12,000 people. If I focus on the high income areas I get about 5-6000 homes so I've decided to break it up into 3 suburbs and focusing on the highest income areas ($98,000 and up). The problem is I then have less areas available to scale things up (as you've suggested) since I'm already hitting all 3 areas. What income ranges are you targeting? I'm thinking maybe I should do 2 suburbs and include incomes down to $70k ish. What advice could you give? I love that you said how many times a day people open their fridge. I did a direct mail piece in 07 and specifically told people to put it on their fridge. The last call I got from that campaign was 2 years ago in 2011. Over the years when I got a call, I'd ask them how they got my number and they said "you sent me a note and I had it on my fridge". It's amazing what people do if you just TELL them to do it. :)
On a side note, I wonder how many high income households put coupons on their fancy fridges...

Hey Jonny,

I like that 4yr+ of longevity or "stickiness" as I tell my clients. If your high-end people have stainless steel fridges and don't put the postcard there hopefully they keep it with their calendars or wherever they keep their "redeemable offers". Lots of the people in that higher demographic pinch those pennies more than you can imagine - that is part of the reason they are in that demographic.

I don't target my demographics as high as you. I do place a number of home trades businesses on my cards so I just focus on homeowners. Of course we have the high end as well as other areas so when I am talking with potential clients of course we get them focused on that highly desirable area. But you really never know so the shotgun approach works especially if you get in front of 10,000 houseowners.

Most businesses on your card probably don't need the high level of demographics that you might think. I suggest opening up your range and then get out there and test it. As long as you bring in enough customers to give them a decent ROI they will be happy. On top of that a lot of them don't even track it that close. Those are the clients you want to find. They keep jumping on every mailing assuming its working but not really tracking it close enough to know.

Are You Making 20 Presentations Today?
Zen

sixthflag
12-10-2013, 05:14 PM
How would you handle retirement communities, Zenyatta?

There's one community I've considered that has a lot of businesses who are already doing a lot of marketing and "get it", but the surrounding area demographics seem a bit less because many of the homes are owned by retirees.

Is that someplace you would choose not to do, or would you just do things differently? Or would you just press ahead, same as any other area?

Zenyatta
12-10-2013, 09:12 PM
How would you handle retirement communities, Zenyatta?

There's one community I've considered that has a lot of businesses who are already doing a lot of marketing and "get it", but the surrounding area demographics seem a bit less because many of the homes are owned by retirees.

Is that someplace you would choose not to do, or would you just do things differently? Or would you just press ahead, same as any other area?

Hi SF,

I always thought retirement communities would be a good candidate if you mail your cards only to homeowners like I do. Some of them spend lots of money on advertising and I always see them in those community trash newspapers with nothing but advertising. I have only approached 2 and never had any luck getting in front of the right decision maker to have them give it a try. Once they get big and have those big advertising budgets to spend they also turn into a corporate machine with too many levels of bureaucracy to wade through. I would still stop in you never know if they are a smaller family run outfit, you are in their main corporate headquarters, or you get lucky and happen to catch a high level decision maker on the premises for whatever reason.

Go For It,
Zen

Bob Ross
12-12-2013, 04:19 PM
Transcript is now done! it should be available on the download page by the end of the day.

eharrisjr
12-12-2013, 05:36 PM
Yes!, I sold my first spot, 15 more to go.

Zenyatta
12-12-2013, 05:52 PM
Yes!, I sold my first spot, 15 more to go.

Good Job E,

Was it the gold buyer? Did you ask for 3 referrals to "Join the TEAM"? In addition to those direct referrals remember to canvass the neighborhood and drop that business name as a warm referral. The social proof will help sell lots of spaces. Businesses Need You!

Keep taking massive action & keep us posted on your successes.

Make it Happen,
Zen

eharrisjr
12-12-2013, 09:44 PM
Zen,

It was the new burger restaurant. I used one of your nuggets asking him what was his marketing strategy to attract potential customers to his business. I did not ask for any referrals, but I will ask him next time.

andrewd
12-12-2013, 10:06 PM
Here's an Oren Klaff interview that will help with setting the stage when you speak with business owners.

http://thefoundation.com/podcast/episode31/

Think this is good also - goes with the audio: http://thefoundation.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/SFN031AG-OKlaff.pdf

Andrew

proteinman
12-12-2013, 10:34 PM
Transcript?

devonartis
01-16-2014, 11:01 PM
Hello I am having massive problems playing the videos ... I install the flash player and updated it but still it wont play. I tried downloading from another computer and still having the same problems.

Any help would be appreciated.

photoads
01-17-2014, 12:01 PM
Try through windows media player

Mr Subtle
01-17-2014, 01:24 PM
Hello I am having massive problems playing the videos ... I install the flash player and updated it but still it wont play. I tried downloading from another computer and still having the same problems.
VLC player plays anything...

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

devonartis
01-17-2014, 02:54 PM
VLC player plays anything...

http://www.videolan.org/vlc/index.html

The videos does not do anything ... it just stands there ....

Mr Subtle
01-17-2014, 04:22 PM
What video(s) are you talking about? What's the format of the video (mp4, flv, something else)? VLC is not my default media player, but I've never seen it not play everything that I've ever dragged onto it.

devonartis
01-17-2014, 06:44 PM
What video(s) are you talking about? What's the format of the video (mp4, flv, something else)? VLC is not my default media player, but I've never seen it not play everything that I've ever dragged onto it.

Its a flash .swf "Shockwave file" I have tried to play it in the browser ... I have tried to play it locally using different players .... I still have not got any of the videos to play. I have tired different computers.

Went to different locations and downloaded the files again ... For some reason it just never starts playing.

Mr Subtle
01-17-2014, 07:23 PM
Its a flash .swf "Shockwave file" I have tried to play it in the browser ... I have tried to play it locally using different players .... I still have not got any of the videos to play. I have tired different computers.
Clicking on a .swf file on my desktop and dragging it onto an open page in my firefox browser runs it fine. I do have the shockwave plugin installed.

You could also try changing the .swf extension to a .flv extension. (Do it on a copy of the movie.) My default .flv player (and JPG viewer) is a program called irfanview, but .FLVs have no problem playing on my VLC media player.

The test .swf file on my desktop was changed to a .flv file and both irfanview and VLC played it with no problems.

Zenyatta
01-17-2014, 09:43 PM
Its a flash .swf "Shockwave file" I have tried to play it in the browser ... I have tried to play it locally using different players .... I still have not got any of the videos to play. I have tired different computers.

Went to different locations and downloaded the files again ... For some reason it just never starts playing.

Hey Devon,

I just sent you a pm. I just checked the files you are talking about as well. The videos are only the mp4 files in the folders. Those swf and other small files are part of the supporting docs in the original zip file, so they aren't video files. You can also tell the video files by the huge file size. Sorry about the confusion.

Z

devonartis
01-19-2014, 09:38 AM
Thanks all ... I am cooking with fire now ...

devonartis
01-20-2014, 01:09 PM
Thanks Zenyatta I am working now ... I so appreciate everyone help. Zen I tried sending you another PM regarding the SMS. It says you cant get any more.

I will try again ... Thanks for everything ...

Zenyatta
01-20-2014, 11:59 PM
Thanks Zenyatta I am working now ... I so appreciate everyone help. Zen I tried sending you another PM regarding the SMS. It says you cant get any more.

I will try again ... Thanks for everything ...

Hey Devon,

Got my pm box limit bumped up so you are good to send messages again. Would enjoy helping you out with our unique SMS model for some great recurring monthly income.

Make 2014 Your Best Yet,
Zen

Lesley
03-20-2014, 07:11 PM
Is this still available? I see a lot of people having problems with the videos and no posts since January.

drtao
03-20-2014, 11:44 PM
I asked if it was available a while ago and there was no answer. :(

godsgood
03-21-2014, 08:37 AM
It is still available. The link is at the top of every page on this site (Zenyatta's 9x12 Zen Mastery), or on the first page of this thread. The videos play just fine. Or if you want the SMS course just click on the link in his signature.

Bob Ross
03-21-2014, 08:38 AM
I think it's just the normal issues of some people having trouble playing certain video files. Zen will help out any way he can, I'm sure he's just been busy lately but I know he'll see this and respond.

DamonNelson
03-21-2014, 11:56 AM
I like the content of this package. Starting to use it immediately.

Lesley
03-22-2014, 09:35 AM
Got everything downloaded... thank you for having something like this available. :)

Zenyatta
03-24-2014, 11:54 AM
I like the content of this package. Starting to use it immediately.

Thanks Damon,

I have tested, tweaked, and refined my system over the past 2 years to fill 9x12s faster, easier, and make more profits. Put this info to use by taking massive action and you will be handsomely rewarded.

Push Yourself - How many spaces can You get filled TODAY?
Zen

Zenyatta
03-24-2014, 11:58 AM
I asked if it was available a while ago and there was no answer. :(

Hey DrTao,

Yes the 9x12 Zen Mastery materials are still available sorry if I missed a previous message of yours. I think you already have the 9x12 Zen Mastery though - my records show you purchased it back in December.

Thanks,
Zen

Zenyatta
03-24-2014, 12:42 PM
Is this still available? I see a lot of people having problems with the videos and no posts since January.

Hi Lesley,

I saw that you purchased the 9x12 Zen Mastery - Thanks for your order! All the videos and audios are working fine but if your run into any issues please send me a pm and we will solve any problems. Please enjoy and take action asap.

Be Your Local Business Prophet,
Zen

nicholasz
03-26-2014, 05:21 PM
First off Hi to everyone here.

I just got access today and this is my very first post so PLEASE don't misinterpret this question I am just trying to get a handle on this whole business model. There are a few systems that are available for sale here from successful students which is really great so I'm kinda looking for a bench mark.

My big question is this: I see in this offering from Zenyatta that he has sold 20 cards in 2 years.

I also see from the posts in this thread that this appears to be a really big accomplishment. Based on an average of $350 per ad on a 5000 piece mailing that's just under $50,000 a year in income. Basically a card a month.

Again please don't take this wrong as I am just trying see what the potential is here... but is that really a benchmark $50K a year?

I am sure I am way off and missing something so I ask you for some guidance as to what.

godsgood
03-26-2014, 08:53 PM
Zen has sold more than 20 cards (hence the + sign after the 20). He does 10k mailings, not 5k. I believe he also sells some of the ads for more than $500. If I remember right, I saw somewhere that he does like 2 cards a month? I may be wrong, he can correct me if so. And he also sells other services as well, a big one for him is SMS. And SMS is a pretty big profit. Print services add to that too. I'd say he's closer to the $150k+ per year if I had to guess.

Even if you did just the 9x12 and nothing else (which would be leaving a lot of easy money on the table), and only one a month, you should be able to make close to $50k. That's a good living for pretty much part time work.

Zenyatta
03-27-2014, 11:02 AM
I am sure I am way off and missing something so I ask you for some guidance as to what.

Hi Nicholas,

While some use the 9x12 as their sole source of income, I use it as my foot in the door strategy to gain new clients. It is the minority of my income. For me its just an easy way to break the ice, build rapport, and gain local offline clients. I then can make the real money offering SMS & Mobile Services, Print Services, Reputation Marketing, and Local SEO.

So any of us that need local offline clients for SEO, Google+/Places/Maps, Social Media Services, PPC Management, Reputation Marketing, Printing, Direct Mail, SMS, Mobile Websites, Web Design, Graphic Design, Google Hangout Marketing, Video Marketing, Press Release & Article Marketing, Analytical Call Tracking,etc. should look into the 9x12s. It is a simple concept that business owners get, need, and want. You can present fast, put a check in your pocket in minutes, then build trust and rapport as you offer your other services your new client needs.

Think of the 9x12 as your stepping stone to your 6 figure business. My 9x12s have 3 ad sizes small medium and large. I sell them for $395, $495, and $595. If you are a strong salesperson or already have a lot of local business clients go after the M3 & M4 business to make even more money faster. I did a quick M3 this month just by making 3 phone calls to current clients and doing some coordination with my graphic artist. That one grossed 71 cents each and netted 46 cents each on 7500 pieces. Not bad for a couple hours of work!

Helping Local Businesses for Fun & Profit,
Zen

nicholasz
03-27-2014, 09:34 PM
Thank you Godsgood and Zen for the clarification.

Zen is your product about selling the 9X12 alone or the 9x12 and the add on services?

DarwinS
04-01-2014, 03:06 PM
Zen,

I just bought this last night, downloading was easy, excellent and fast, no problems at all. Just got to the third video and already got ten times my money back. I want to thank you for your hard work, trail blazing and most of all, for sharing your knowledge with us, it is greatly appreciated. My biggest concern with the whole system was "what if it doesn't work" and "what if it doesn't deliver" and you have alleviated almost all of those worries, which in all honestly is worth more than the price you are charging, and like I said I am only into starting the third video. Just the motivation is more than worth it, thank you so much.

Darwin Schoenwald
Albuquerque, NM

WineGuy
05-21-2014, 12:15 PM
Just purchased....Thanks Zen!

Cheers!

Chris

Zenyatta
05-21-2014, 05:41 PM
Just purchased....Thanks Zen!

Cheers!

Chris

Thanks Chris! I hope you enjoy the materials and take massive action.

I think your wine/microbrew/event themed card would be a big hit. Look for your secret bonus access to SMS Zen Mastery. The connection with your 12x15 card with a map or "treasure map" to your wineries would each have a mobile optimized landing page on your directory.

Connect with QR codes and run Text to Win contests at all the wineries and restaurants to get optin subscribers. Now you have a way to more affordably and efficiently connect year round with customers even if you only mail your initial card once a year.

If you go the targeted mailing route instead of EDDM you can get free mailing lists from each of your winery clients. They aren't "competing" and when joining as a TEAM they will all develop more business than on their own.

So you would save $500 to $1000 on list cost and in addition get a more responsive list since they are all customers of at least one of your clients on the TEAM.

Make it Happen,
Zen

WineGuy
05-21-2014, 06:52 PM
I am on your 4th video right now and will still probably hit the SMS Zen Mastery tonight or tomorrow. The plan was to use one SMS account per card to build a list for myself/the card brand rather than each of the wineries unless they ask. This way I can deliver ALL the offers on the card to everyone who opts in and have a list for other wine related offers I have access to. I will also create a separate QR linked website for every themed card I build so my clients can collect their own opt-ins there and have a secondary internet published listing. My intent is to have the card act as almost like a preplanned wine weekend itinerary with deals on everything someone might want to do on a trip to wine country/ Disneyland/ where ever.

The only thing I have to sort out is the types of offers an alcohol related business can offer. Free is often a no no...

So far I like EDDM for the areas I have chosen and having worked with wineries in the past have found list sharing is a big NYET for most...still trying though, I believe a card like this would break the ice...

I think we are on the same page... Thanks again.. This is going to be fun...

Cheers!

C

WineGuy
05-21-2014, 07:16 PM
Zen,

Listened to the SMS Zen Mastery audio, maybe I spoke to soon on my own plans, I am following the instructions on the audio right now...

Cheers!

C

Zenyatta
05-21-2014, 07:43 PM
I think we are on the same page... Thanks again.. This is going to be fun...

Cheers!

C

Yes we are on the same page - definitely build and control "Your" list. We harness the power & leverage from a TEAM of local businesses whether wineries, micro-breweries, restaurants, etc. So you build your subscriber list quickly and it is highly responsive since you are getting it at point of sale from a business they already know like and trust. Every customer coming into their establishments will see your Text to Win offer and be able to opt-in if they want.

All you need is one SMS/Mobile Marketing platform for all your businesses. Your SMS Platform will give you up to 50 mobile landing pages, unlimited mobile image coupons(these have a real cool viral sharing action on Facebook, Twitter, & email to really supercharge getting subscribers), Text to Win, Text Questionnaires and Surveys, QR Codes, full tracking and reports, for your clients/directories, texts, and even Personal Zen Coaching for only $97 monthly. So it only takes one client to cover expenses and then the rest of your clients are pure profit.

Think of the extra added value for your clients. Your clients get a stand alone mobile optimized landing page customized for them. This can be used online with their website, social media, or any printed marketing pieces like direct mail etc. But the huge value is in the added traffic factor. Because what good is a beautiful mobile website or landing page if it doesn't get any traffic. You will send out a weekly text with a link to your mobile directory to continually push traffic to all your clients. Reread that last sentence! This is unlike most other systems out there and is the biggest benefit to make sure your prospects understand. HIGHLY RESPONSIVE TRAFFIC!

You create an automatic monthly recurring income from monthly subscriptions as well as doing one time Monthly Mega deals which you negotiate like a Groupon offer, but we give the businesses 70% and the discounts don't have to be 50% or more.

Send me a PM if you have questions or want to mastermind your specific project - I would love to help you achieve a highly successful Local Marketing System!

Go For It,
Zen

PS I will also explain how to properly present your Local Marketing TEAM Concept so that these businesses will gladly let you use their lists. Whether you are emailing their lists for SMS opt-in subscribers and/or physically mailing their address list you need to use the correct strategy & then they will be ready to go!

WineGuy
05-21-2014, 07:51 PM
Thanks, I think you may already be working with JC here in Eau Claire? Also do you have any 9x12 samplers for sale, I like the looks of your cards and ads, they would be great to have for my pitch book?

Chris

Zenyatta
05-21-2014, 08:08 PM
Thanks, I think you may already be working with JC here in Eau Claire? Also do you have any 9x12 samplers for sale, I like the looks of your cards and ads, they would be great to have for my pitch book?

Chris

Thanks Chris!!

I do have sample packages.

The Basic Package has 100 samples (1 version) for $39 which includes priority shipping so you get in 3 days and includes the bonus access to SMS Zen Mastery.

The Pro Package has 200 samples (at least 3 versions & it includes my latest 9x12 tweak I did on this weeks mailing - it nets you an extra $700 per card and also makes sales easier for you and its easier for your graphic artist), I also include SMS Zen Mastery Bonus, also a bonus solo mailer and my latest M3, and a double secret undisclosed bonus(worth a lot more than $59 by itself). This complete package is only $59 and also includes 3 Day priority shipping. Everything is shipped the same or following business day, so you will get it quickly. Just send $$ via Paypal to Scott@SeattleMobileSolutions.com

Build Your Business Now,
Zen

mojo
10-25-2014, 11:53 PM
Hi there Zen,

I just sent you a pm.

Thanks.

bizactuator
04-06-2015, 12:52 PM
Is this system still viable? are the files still there? No updates from Zen.... in almost 1 year.

Thanks
Richard

myhome
10-08-2015, 11:48 PM
I was keen to but this product as well.

Is is still supported?

Thanks.

Bob Ross
10-09-2015, 08:25 AM
I was keen to but this product as well.

Is is still supported?

Thanks.

It's still totally relevant and has been one of the most cited programs for 9x12 success from other members. Are you an elite member? The modules at highrespnsemarketing.com/members will be useful

myhome
10-09-2015, 12:24 PM
Bob would it be part of the Elite membership or would require a separate purchase?

Zenyatta
10-10-2015, 06:44 PM
Hey myhome,

Yes this product is still supported and totally viable You will get out of it what you put into it. If you take action you can make it happen!

After 3.5+ years I am still doing 9x12s but even more solo mailers, M2-6, and even picked up 2 political clients that have been kicking my butt ----------------> all the way to the bank.

Its Zentastic!!

That is why I haven't had time to visit my favorite forum & post lately. I never imagined all the different things these political candidates want & the mass quantities of orders they generate. Not just mailers, but rack cards, postcards, yard signs, shirts, buttons, etc. you name it. Local business clients love print products & EDDM. So jump in the pool the waters fine - its time to make some $$$$.

Happy Sales,
Zen

myhome
10-11-2015, 12:40 AM
Have just bought it but cannot open any of the files.

Cannot open the PDF or the SWF files.

myhome
10-11-2015, 01:24 AM
Have just bought it but cannot open any of the files.

Cannot open the PDF or the SWF files.

Zenyatta
01-09-2016, 02:53 PM
Hi myhome,

Glad you got the PDF files opened on your desktop - not sure why your Droid was not opening them - I have opened them on Iphones & other Droids without issues. The SWF files are just support files for video/audio files so nothing to open up there. Good Luck - Take Action & Make it Happen!!

Zen